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Thomas Lot
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Posted - 2016.10.13 12:45:38 -
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Really need a tl:dr summary here.
"...Then came yesterday's ban hammer on IWI/EVE Casino and all that. I raged about it, but that's not the point here. My point, at least for this post, is not about whether CCP action was good or bad or RMT and gambling and all that stuff people keep going on about without seeing the main issue. ..."
You mention that this is not your point. What is your point? Are you upset that CCP took control of an aspect of the game that was suspect and after exhaustive investigation finding RMT activities and took action?
I too am in academia (mathematician) and think that your post could use an editor. |
Thomas Lot
Astrocomical
Warped Intentions
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Posted - 2016.10.13 12:56:25 -
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Toobo wrote:tl/dr, no more sand box and creative social evolution. Labour and fight in the space like primitive cliche. New Eden was evolving, CCP put a stop to it, they want it to stay stuck in old social model while even RL world has evolved into new mode of social frame.
Ahhh, I understand our differing viewpoints. Your background is in Social Science, and you see the loss of a free creative aspect of gameplay. My viewpoint is from a background of hard science and I see CCP investigating and factual evidence of violations.
Are you of the opinion that CCP could have taken control of the gambling sites, incorporated them into gameplay within the program code and created an ISK sink to counter the faucet of bounties?
Is your opinion now that we will see an increase in currency available ingame because of the loss of the gambling sink?
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Thomas Lot
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Posted - 2016.10.13 14:33:16 -
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The OP point may be summed with the metaphor of the "Sandbox".
CCP sees the sandbox as having boundaries that need to exist within the game itself. This is demonstrated by the multi-box prohibiting and now by the outside gambling sites. These sites had a direct influence on the game. You may propose that sites such as the zkillboard, dotlan, EvEMon, EvECentral, or even fuzzworks have influence. That may be true but it is secondary influence that can be replicated by simple pencil/paper mechanics (albeit this task would be monumental if done by hand). Sites that serve as database information to enhance knowledge of and use of the game have a legitimate place. The gambling, and external direct manipulation sites and programs do not. |
Thomas Lot
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Posted - 2016.10.14 12:59:19 -
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Toobo,
Thank you for the thread. The discussion here has been a bit easier to read through than the reddit thread. I understand the frustration of losing a part of the game that you enjoyed. I sincerely hope that you do not quit the game because of this. After all, the game is the more important aspect here.
My uninformed opinion is that CCP had no choice but to take the actions that they did. The environment towards gambling in virtual games is very negative and appears to be declining. The public should be able to see this as truth. CCP must not appear to have any association with this if they do not wish to become embroiled in the legal aspect. This may allow the company to focus more on substance than peripheral distractions.
I wish you the best.
Sincerely,
Thomas Lot |
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